Comments for ImageForth http://imageforth.com reflecting God in ALL you do Thu, 04 Dec 2008 00:26:13 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 Comment on Don’t Serve Me Burnt Pizza by Jeff Wilson http://imageforth.com/church-communication/dont-serve-me-burnt-pizza/#comment-12979 Jeff Wilson Wed, 26 Nov 2008 19:27:36 +0000 http://imageforth.com/?p=1683#comment-12979 Another great illustration. Thanks Jason. Another great illustration. Thanks Jason.

]]> Comment on Don’t Serve Me Burnt Pizza by Jason http://imageforth.com/church-communication/dont-serve-me-burnt-pizza/#comment-12978 Jason Wed, 26 Nov 2008 17:48:04 +0000 http://imageforth.com/?p=1683#comment-12978 Interesting transition, but I believe one that is spot on. Too many times we find ourselves as Christians doing the same thing when it comes to our presentation of the Gospel. The truth of what Christ did, and continues to do stands on its own for sure. But we, as His followers, have been called to present this truth to people. If we do not give Him everything we can every time we represent Him to others, then we are merely serving burnt pizza to a world that is hungry for the truth. Interesting transition, but I believe one that is spot on.

Too many times we find ourselves as Christians doing the same thing when it comes to our presentation of the Gospel. The truth of what Christ did, and continues to do stands on its own for sure. But we, as His followers, have been called to present this truth to people.

If we do not give Him everything we can every time we represent Him to others, then we are merely serving burnt pizza to a world that is hungry for the truth.

]]> Comment on Yellow Pages? by Jeff Wilson http://imageforth.com/church-communication/yellow-pages/#comment-12977 Jeff Wilson Wed, 26 Nov 2008 17:24:59 +0000 http://imageforth.com/communication/yellow-pages/#comment-12977 Randy, I still stick with my comments above. I'm not dumping all of our Yellow Page ads. I didn't say we were. I do think that along with encyclopedias and newspapers, Yellow Pages are dying. I'm not sure how much longer they will exist. Yes I am the person captaining the marketing ship. But I'm not dropping my anchor in just Yellow Pages. Almost everyone I speak to is decreasing the size of their ad or dropping them completely. As far as diversified approach to marketing I'm all in. Here's an example. For our Christmas Program this year we are using magazine, newspaper, internet ads, and created our own web site www.allwrappedup.me, just to name a few. Sorry if this offends. It wasn't meant to do so. I'm just looking at trends and asking for advice/input. Thanks for contributing. Randy,

I still stick with my comments above. I’m not dumping all of our Yellow Page ads. I didn’t say we were. I do think that along with encyclopedias and newspapers, Yellow Pages are dying. I’m not sure how much longer they will exist.

Yes I am the person captaining the marketing ship. But I’m not dropping my anchor in just Yellow Pages. Almost everyone I speak to is decreasing the size of their ad or dropping them completely.

As far as diversified approach to marketing I’m all in. Here’s an example. For our Christmas Program this year we are using magazine, newspaper, internet ads, and created our own web site http://www.allwrappedup.me, just to name a few.

Sorry if this offends. It wasn’t meant to do so. I’m just looking at trends and asking for advice/input. Thanks for contributing.

]]> Comment on Yellow Pages? by Randy Whittern http://imageforth.com/church-communication/yellow-pages/#comment-12976 Randy Whittern Wed, 26 Nov 2008 16:43:35 +0000 http://imageforth.com/communication/yellow-pages/#comment-12976 Hopefully your yellow pages (not yellow BOOK) rep can show you the latest information and trends regarding yellow pages usage and ways to track the effectiveness of your ads (there ARE ways to do that). Saying <i>No wonder there are so many yellow page books today. It’s like it’s legalized theft.</i> is paramount to saying, "No wonder there are so many churches today. It's a legalized tax write-off." Perhaps there are so many yellow page directories today for the same reason there are so many churches today...there is a NEED. Yellow Pages usage has remained constant throughout the last 10 years. Yes, the Internet is a viable way to reach people. But in a large part it has done it at the expense of book reading, TV watching, newspaper reading etc. Yellow Pages and Internet are both forms of 'permission based' marketing...consumers 'asking' to be sold. Legit yellow pages companies haven't ignored the Internet, and that's why there are sites like YellowPages.com that get nearly 40 million business searches each month. The biggest mistake a person can make in marketing is to 'assume' that everyone finds things the same way they do. Once again, analgous to assuming everyone will find the Lord the same way you did or that everyone likes the same style of 'worship music' that appeals to you. Hopefully you're not captaining the marketing ship there at Henderson Hills, or you may hit an iceburg. Paul tells us it takes all parts of the body for an effective church...I would contend it takes takes a diversified media approach to grow your church. Just because it's been around 125 years doesn't make Yellow Pages advertising obsolete...it makes it a trusted, reliable source of information (like some other 'books' that come to mind). Take it from a bivocational Worship Leader (whose other job happens to be as a Yellow Pages sales manager)...even though I can get every Biblical translation there is on the Internet, I still carry my Bible. Call me old school. Randy Hopefully your yellow pages (not yellow BOOK) rep can show you the latest information and trends regarding yellow pages usage and ways to track the effectiveness of your ads (there ARE ways to do that). Saying No wonder there are so many yellow page books today. It’s like it’s legalized theft. is paramount to saying, “No wonder there are so many churches today. It’s a legalized tax write-off.” Perhaps there are so many yellow page directories today for the same reason there are so many churches today…there is a NEED. Yellow Pages usage has remained constant throughout the last 10 years. Yes, the Internet is a viable way to reach people. But in a large part it has done it at the expense of book reading, TV watching, newspaper reading etc. Yellow Pages and Internet are both forms of ‘permission based’ marketing…consumers ‘asking’ to be sold. Legit yellow pages companies haven’t ignored the Internet, and that’s why there are sites like YellowPages.com that get nearly 40 million business searches each month. The biggest mistake a person can make in marketing is to ‘assume’ that everyone finds things the same way they do. Once again, analgous to assuming everyone will find the Lord the same way you did or that everyone likes the same style of ‘worship music’ that appeals to you. Hopefully you’re not captaining the marketing ship there at Henderson Hills, or you may hit an iceburg. Paul tells us it takes all parts of the body for an effective church…I would contend it takes takes a diversified media approach to grow your church. Just because it’s been around 125 years doesn’t make Yellow Pages advertising obsolete…it makes it a trusted, reliable source of information (like some other ‘books’ that come to mind). Take it from a bivocational Worship Leader (whose other job happens to be as a Yellow Pages sales manager)…even though I can get every Biblical translation there is on the Internet, I still carry my Bible. Call me old school.
Randy

]]> Comment on Twitter and the Church by Jeff Wilson http://imageforth.com/church-communication/twitter-and-the-church/#comment-12956 Jeff Wilson Wed, 12 Nov 2008 23:46:27 +0000 http://imageforth.com/?p=353#comment-12956 Thanks for the response Jim. I don't think Twitter is the "all-in-one" package solution for communication. There isn't anything that will reach everyone anymore. But, I do see more and more of our membership using Twitter and it is now one of many tools we use to communicate with those within our church, our church staff, and those looking for a church. Thanks for the response Jim. I don’t think Twitter is the “all-in-one” package solution for communication. There isn’t anything that will reach everyone anymore. But, I do see more and more of our membership using Twitter and it is now one of many tools we use to communicate with those within our church, our church staff, and those looking for a church.

]]> Comment on Twitter and the Church by Jim Walton http://imageforth.com/church-communication/twitter-and-the-church/#comment-12953 Jim Walton Wed, 12 Nov 2008 18:20:35 +0000 http://imageforth.com/?p=353#comment-12953 I know I'm slow to respond on this, I am trying to catch up on feeds. As I led the tech team at my church, we began doing most communication via twitter, such as when to meet next etc. Granted some things are not meant for public consumption so we reverted to text or email or at times conversations via the telephone or even face to face. I know I’m slow to respond on this, I am trying to catch up on feeds.

As I led the tech team at my church, we began doing most communication via twitter, such as when to meet next etc. Granted some things are not meant for public consumption so we reverted to text or email or at times conversations via the telephone or even face to face.

]]> Comment on Facebook 101 by Jeff Wilson http://imageforth.com/church-communication/facebook-101/#comment-12952 Jeff Wilson Wed, 12 Nov 2008 03:21:39 +0000 http://imageforth.com/?p=458#comment-12952 Greg, a great resource for using Facebook for ministry is actually on Facebook. A friend of mine, Chris Forbes, has written an e-book called Facebook for Pastors. He's created a group for the e-book. Here's the link to the page: http://www.facebook.com/home.php?ref=logo#/group.php?gid=18403101472. Hope this helps! Greg, a great resource for using Facebook for ministry is actually on Facebook. A friend of mine, Chris Forbes, has written an e-book called Facebook for Pastors. He’s created a group for the e-book. Here’s the link to the page: http://www.facebook.com/home.php?ref=logo#/group.php?gid=18403101472.

Hope this helps!

]]> Comment on Facebook 101 by Greg Davis http://imageforth.com/church-communication/facebook-101/#comment-12951 Greg Davis Fri, 07 Nov 2008 19:30:37 +0000 http://imageforth.com/?p=458#comment-12951 Thanks for sharing this Jeff! I'm looking at doing something similar for my church up here in the northeast. I'll be leveraging your outline for sure! If you have any other materials or references please let me know! Greg Thanks for sharing this Jeff! I’m looking at doing something similar for my church up here in the northeast. I’ll be leveraging your outline for sure! If you have any other materials or references please let me know!

Greg

]]> Comment on Ooma…Not Your Normal Land Line by Jeff Wilson http://imageforth.com/technology/oomanot-your-normal-land-line/#comment-12934 Jeff Wilson Wed, 15 Oct 2008 03:23:46 +0000 http://imageforth.com/?p=430#comment-12934 Chris, I'm not sure if Ooma will work in Canada. I'd suggest going to www.ooma.com and check it out before writing a check or ordering Ooma. You do not need a land line for Ooma. We don't have one and it's working great! We dropped our land line two weeks before purchasing Ooma. You will need a modem. If you have internet service, then you already have a modem. Both cable internet service and DSL internet service utilize modems. You will just install Ooma to your modem for it to work. Hope this helps! Chris, I’m not sure if Ooma will work in Canada. I’d suggest going to http://www.ooma.com and check it out before writing a check or ordering Ooma.

You do not need a land line for Ooma. We don’t have one and it’s working great! We dropped our land line two weeks before purchasing Ooma. You will need a modem. If you have internet service, then you already have a modem. Both cable internet service and DSL internet service utilize modems. You will just install Ooma to your modem for it to work.

Hope this helps!

]]> Comment on Twitter and the Church by Jeff Wilson http://imageforth.com/church-communication/twitter-and-the-church/#comment-12933 Jeff Wilson Wed, 15 Oct 2008 03:18:59 +0000 http://imageforth.com/?p=353#comment-12933 Those are some great points Chris. Points that I have not seen posted on other blogs. All I've read concerning Twitter was about it's growth rate and it's uses. It will be fun to watch what happens to Twitter and others like it in the future. There is no doubt that cell companies will be trying to get their hands into the pockets of those using these types of services. Those are some great points Chris. Points that I have not seen posted on other blogs. All I’ve read concerning Twitter was about it’s growth rate and it’s uses. It will be fun to watch what happens to Twitter and others like it in the future. There is no doubt that cell companies will be trying to get their hands into the pockets of those using these types of services.

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